Meredith Little and Scott Eberle - Upaya lecture

Meredith and Scott speak about their unique wilderness-based curriculum, "The Practice of Living and Dying," at the Upaya Zen Center in Santa Fe, New Mexico.  They offer a four-step model for how to die, be it dying symbolically or dying physically.

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We do not go into the desert to escape

people but to learn how to find them:
we do not leave them in order to have

nothing more to do with them,
but to find out the way
to do them the most good.

Thomas Merton-